Date a Live IV - Reviews

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JustInCaseD's avatar
Jun 24, 2022

A lot of pressure was on Geek Toys this season to make up for the mistake J.C Staff made that was Date a Live Season 3. And for the most part: they did a mostly passable job.

There won't be direct spoilers in this, just enough details to explain what they did good and bad here. So if you're on the fence about giving this season the time after season 3 left a bad taste in your mouth - you can read this without worry for ruining your watch experience and make a decision whether you want to dedicate time watching this from there.

Story: We pick up right after the speedrun that covered the 12th light novel in the final epsiode of season 3 (no retcon episode for that, sorry for the fans who were hoping for that to be fixed. But it probably was for the best just to keep moving onward instead of wasting time backtracking). Shido goes back on his quest to help more spirits, and it pretty much follows suit on how they series has always gone. The twist in the plot starts to emerge as the first arc ends and we finally learn the intentions of the main villain, Westcott, and what he wants with the spirits after 2 seasons of knowing barely anything about his sinister plot. In the 2nd arc we get to see 2 unexpected characters return for a brief spell, some more information is slipped through, and then it ends in similar DAL fashion. The 3rd arc... is where DAL goes into overdrive: the Kurumi arc. We finally learn the story of Nightmare and how she ended up as a spirit. We learn of the final boss of series, and a twist on par with Kotori's reveal as a spirit in season 1. I won't spoil anything, but all I'll say is: DAL has approached it's Endgame, and with Season 5 now confirmed we now sit on the edge of our seats to see the final act.

While there were a fair number of distractable slice of life episodes in between all the action, this isn't far off the course that the series has been doing throughout it's runtime. It's just become more noticable now that there's a darker, more interesting theme approaching and its being interrupted by all the s.o.l shenanigans. While I understand it can be bothersome, it didn't derail it enough to be harsher about it.

Also if you still didn't get enough Love is War in your life even with it's latest season going on then you'll love this last arc in particular - you'll understand why.

Consensus: solid story that's continuing the escalation setup by last season, kept me interested despite being interrupted by a number of s.o.l episodes, and has set the stage for it's next season to be the climax of the series.

Art/Animation: The new art style divided the community to some extent. Of personal opinion, I liked the character remodels and vibrant colors that gave so much more detail and life to the cast and background art. Though I understand why other folks don't, it took a lot of familiarity away from the series and no longer matches the illustrations of the source material. And I admittedly do miss that a bit. But it was universally a step up from last season's trainwreck deviantart level style, so the general impression I've seen is that it's gotten at least a "pass" from most the fanbase.

Tho there was also the unfortunate factor of some additional censorship sewed into this season. I don't care that some of the echii was diluted down in some scenes (that was mostly expected), but the darker parts of the story were significantly changed to be less gruesome - to the point where it almost changed entire scenes and brought down the weight of the final arc (Nibelcole and Shido's room scene for example). LN readers have been very vocably upset about this particularly, and I agree with them.

But even without the artstyle debate, a far bigger problem quickly emerged. Moving to the case of contention within this season: The CGI fights. Ima keep it real with you chief: at it's best it wasn't pretty, and at it's worst... it was just awful. The rough transitioning between 3D puppets to still frame 2D action shots as they collided didn't look good. The Origami vs Inverse Tohka fight was supposed to be one of the most action packed moments of the season: it punctuated the OP of this season and from that it looked like it was gonna be great. But after waiting 8 episodes for this promised hyped up fight, we instead got... essentially 2 plastic action figures bashing into each other with only the hands of the kids holding them edited out. The space fights with Mukuro were also very ugly at times when it dipped into the CG for portions of it. The only thing thing that looked fairly good with the CGI was the airship fight between Fraxinus and Goetia.

It's no exaggeration to say the animation is worse than season 3's, but I'd even go as far and say that the CGI was so horrible it could be on par with the likes of Arifureta season 1 - that's how bad it was. And if you've seen or even vaguely know of Arifureta's reputation regarding it's animation: that should upset you immensely. To clarify, I'm not CGI-phobic - but when you utilize CGI it needs to feel as seemless and naturally a part of the production and scenes its used in, as opposed to feeling so out of place it sticks out and takes you out of the experience. And the CGI this season definitely felt the latter. Going from 2D animations to rough looking Playstation-esq block models for fights looked terrible. It is by far and away the biggest complaint about this season.

Overall, for the 2nd season running animation was by far the weakest element. Like season 3 it wasn't unpassably bad to kill the anime, but by God it was awful. The eye-capturing action that makes DAL so unique and special from other harems was butchered badly this season. The only thing saving this grade was that the 2D elements looked better than before, and they put a lot of effort into making the background and fine details look much better. But why wasn't the most important elements and action scenes given as much care? Geek Toys needs improvement here: Badly.

Sound: While it was dissapointing to have the tradition broken and not have Sweet A.R.M.S do the OP, Miyu Tomita did a pretty good job and still gave another equally banging one for this season. As far as background tracks goes, they mostly kept up with properly matching the tone of anime and it's scenes. Now we didn't get many new tracks this season, but tbf they had already been doing Date a Bullet and we heard quite a few of those throughout the Kurumi arc - so I'll give them a pass. My only dissapointment comes from not having an orchestrated version of the OP in the final episode as we've had in the 3 seasons past, but it's basically nitpicking of a hardcore fan at this point.

Voice acting remains solid, on the original japanese end. I'm not gonna factor this into the grade at all because it would be unfair and is irrelevant to anyone who doesn't watch alternative versions/dubs. But in case you don't know the English dub has had some problems of securing some of it's original voice actors back for every episode, and there's been an almost merry-go-round rotation between some characters sounding notably different in the dub across episodes as they've been using different voice actors. It's a jarring experience and has actually turned me off from watching the dub for the time being. Likely gonna have to wait till the DvD releases in August to hopefully get the version where they've got the whole voice cast back and recorded for every episode.

But back to point: disregarding the dubs problems, overall sound/music was great - still the series' best and most defining aspect.

Characters: I'm not gonna pretend that DAL doesn't have the problem that most harems have as they keep growing in size of sidelining less relevant characters in favor of the ones that are the focal point of the plot - because we all know it's absolutely guilty of it. Yoshino, the Yamai's, Miku, and Natsumi were benched for the majority of the season, bar a few specific scenes where they got some crumbs for attention. And Kotori remains in the same logistics point of directing the plot she always is in. Some points are gonna be docked from this category inherently. That being said, this isn't a new problem for the series (or the genre in general) so you just learn to go with it and focus on the "main" returning characters to develop or take part in the plot in a notable way. Which were: Shido, Tohka, Origami, Kurumi, Reine, and the villains Westcott and Ellen.

For the new characters of note from this season: We have our 2 new spirits Nia and Mukuro, the new DEM adaptess Artemisia Ashcroft, Nibelcole, and the final boss of the series... the Origin Spirit.

Of the 2 new spirits, I liked Nia the most. She broke the mold a little bit being that she wasn't some oblivous, innocent girl that Shido easily charmed into liking him like most of the cast. She's an older women in her 20's who's confidence, lack of a filter, and awareness of exactly what Shido is trying to do put him into uncomfortable, less cliche and more interesting situations - which was very refreshing. It got a few genunine chuckles out of me and I was interested in seeing where her story goes. She does get mostly sidelined sadly after her arc ends, but that is the series for ya.

Next up is Mukuro, who falls back into the tropey nature that most of the DAL girls fall into: innocent girl that nearly immediately falls for the MC, but with another gimmick. Personally I found her very uninteresting, though I can see why some fans would like her - she is pretty much a cupcake in both looks and in personality. My distate in her could be attributed to her arc feeling... rather boring. It felt like it dragged on and on, but in reality it was being speedran so much that most of the best parts from the light novel had been cut out. Of the 5 episodes from the Mukuro arc, 1 was near completely dedicated towards info dumping on the Fraxinus organization's backstory (because that had been neglected in the prior seasons up till this point, for some reason) and another was spent on the Fairy Tale episodes that was pretty much a filler episode. 2 Light novels essentially essentially condensed into 3 episodes wasn't a great idea, as it made me feel more annoyed with Mukuro as a character than making me like her. We got all her most boring parts and lost most of the good stuff.

Artemisia takes the place of Mana and Origami as the head AST that follow's DEM's commands. There's apparently a lot more to her, but from what I've been told from light novel readers a good portion of related backstory and scenes involving her have been cut. So for the time being, she left extremely underdeveloped and she kinda drops off from the story after the halfway point. Guess if you want more information on her you'll have to read the light novel... but given that it's expected to be an estimated 2+ years as of writing this before it will get officially brought over in english - it's gonna be awhile unless you go to an unofficial translator. :/

Not gonna explain who Nibelcole is as well as the Origin Spirit, doing that without spoilers would be too much giveaway. All I'll say is that Nibelcole was notably watered down in brutality in the anime, as I've seen some of translations from the light novel about some of the things she was supposed to do in a few scenes... look up at your own discretion.

Old characters:
Tohka and Origami get their time in the spotlight in the Mukuro arc, but in an unconventional way. Again, don't want to spoil - this review is intended for folks sitting on the fence after going through season 3. Westcott and Ellen's plot starts to unfold, and they get a lot more screentime.

Mana is back after being gone for the entirety of season 3, and that's nice - but she doesn't do much in the grand scheme of things here other than show up in a couple of scenes.

Reine gets more involved in the plot and we see more of her this season. And we're gonna see much more of her next season.

And Kurumi... is once again, the biggest attraction. Her arc is the reason DAL has skyrocketed to the top of almost every poll in the final weeks of the season - and for good reason. It came at the cost of Mukuro's arc being forcibly speedran so that they could have as much time as they could get to cover Kurumi Refrain, the 16th volume of the light novel. The production team clearly went all-in on Kurumi's popularity to carry the season. And while it might've made Light Novel readers upset, it clearly paid off in most anime watchers opinions.

And Shido starts becoming more aware of his purpose, starting to ponder the nature of what he's doing and why. Which doesn't really matter much in this season, but will become a big part of the next.

Section conclusion:
While many of the harem girls were pretty much sidelined to where they barely exist and Mukuro's arc might've been a bit too speedran to the point where it felt both rushed yet felt slow and boring - the ones that got focused on ranged from fair at its worst to very well written at its peak. Nia's arc, Westcott's intentions finally being revealed, Shido's internal dilemma beginning to be recognized, and especially Kurumi's backstory + development carried this season.

Overall: I can feel comfortable saying that Date A Live IV was definitively a step up from 3 in terms of it's production. While it definitely still has its issues, the end result was still roughly enjoyable as each one before it. Subjectively, DAL is one of the best harem series ever made and is still manages to be my favorite guilty pleasure anime of all time. It would take a truly awful season to change that, and thankfully this wasn't it.

We'll see if Geek Toys breaks the curse of every studio only doing 1 season of DAL before passing it along to the next. But if they do, and you happen to read this Geek Toys: I want to first say I appreciate your work towards adapting this series and picking it up from where J.C Staff abruptly dropped it. But please, Step up your CGI. Every fight made in 3D this season, bar the airship battle, was horrendous and by far the biggest thing that really held this season back.
This is a very fixable problem that I hope they recognize and put effort into fixing for next season to make a finale worth the years of build up and waiting.

Overall, Solid 7 out of 10 anime/season - with a .5 bonus for personal enjoyment/bias for the series. It would've needed to address some of it's issues listed above in the animation and character sections particularly for it to reach an 8 or higher. A definitively better showing over the previous season, but it had the potential to be so much better.

8/10 story
5/10 animation
9/10 sound
6.5/10 characters
7.5/10 overall
Archert's avatar
Nov 1, 2023

Esperaba otra basura como sus dos ultimas temporadas y no...curiosamente no estuvo mal.

El anime ha mejorado. Su animacion es mejor, ha recupeado la chispa de su primera temporada, la trama se cuenta rapida y con gracia. En principio pintaba a ser una temporada decente, de aprobado justo, pero su final fue el equivalente a poner pausa en medio de una pelicula. Su final quedo horrorosamente abierto. 

En resumen, una notable mejora que contra todo pronostico me ha permitido disfrutar de un anime que solo hacia ir a peor. Su mayor problema es ella misma, necesita culminar con todo lo que lleva cargando y poner el broche final de una vez. 

La recomendaria? No, hasta que este la temporada 5. (ya confirmada)

8/10 story
8/10 animation
7.3/10 sound
8/10 characters
7.9/10 overall
YuukiAnona's avatar
Jun 25, 2022

SPOILERS FREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so to start it off ill say DATE A LIVE 4 definetly lived up to its ame for trapping the viewers for wanting an another season and the heck S5 has been confirmed for production.....

this anime literally has been renewed the most among all other anime i have watched.... so just knowing this thing actually make you realise that its pretty darn popular and not just that its story line charecters are unique and really awesome .

STORY; its beyond comparison ist unique interesting and in this paritcular seasom many questions from previous seasons have been answered and this seasons ending was a real big CLIFFHANGER and i am actuall pretty crazy about S5.

animation and sound are excellent no compromise in that department

CHARECTERS: now this is a huge blast of charecters and there back story each and every charecter have a proper back story and some have many mysterious vibes comming from them but once again many mysteries were solved in this season but shidou itsuka still have many untold facts to be known, hope S5 will answer all the questions and uncertain stuff....

so overall this anime series is a total blast and worthwhile for every anime fans....

if you are a fan of scifi romance action drama comedy, this anme is definetly recomended for you....

FUN Watching.

signing out

Yuuki Anona

10/10 story
10/10 animation
10/10 sound
10/10 characters
10/10 overall
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Berch's avatar
Jun 30, 2022

So... season 4 is finally finished... here we go:

I think this season did an amazing job concidering it was produced during the hight of Coronavirus, but it did indeed have potential to be much better. I'm not going to complain about the issues I had with the story adaptation because I've never read the Light Novel and this season didn't have time to do any filler/fan amusment and whatnot, so let's just skip that.

Animation:

The new art style is definetly something I wouldn't mind sticking with... this is the first time Date a Live has actually been "Modernly animated", as S1 and 2's art style is very dated and S3 got One Punched (One might say). But as has been pointed out... the CGI visuals got super bad by episode 6, but that's something that can always be fixed in the DvD release. The main thing I didn't like about the new art were the characters eyes... with the animation being much more smoothly drawn, the eyes made many of the characters look way younger than in S1-3, and some of the characters (Like Ryouko and and the Ai-Mai-Mii trio) I didn't even reconize until they were introduced (It clicked on he for the trio when the usual "That's so lame" was dropped and I realized who Ryouko was after Origami called her "Captain"). I think the new eye design was unnecisary and honestly made them look like babys at times (Seeing Westcott in the car in episode 3 was especially weird). I did get used to it in the end though, so it's not much of a deal right now... I was just putting my first judgment.

Sound:

I really don't need to say much here. The soundtrack was outstanding as usual and none of the voice actors changed.

Characters:

Ok... Shido, Tohka, Kotori, and the other spirits got their development in Season 2. Natsumi and Origami shined in season 3. Now it's time for the villians to shine, Kurumi and Westcott. What I found interesting was that the 2 new spirits (Nia and Mukuro) were used to slowly unveal Westcott's true goals, though not completely. Hell, even Kurumi was used to unravel the absolute monster that Westcott truley is... He's been so cruel and brutal in the previous season (And also shows himself the be extremely sadistic during the final part of season 2), so I never would've expected him to be this bad. In a twisted way, he's actually been nice this whole story up until now. This man is an absolute demon dressed in a jump suit, and he may actually be the most fucked up character I have ever seen.

As for Kurumi, they show what has been suggested since season 1, she has way more good in her than evil. It's almost like she's struggling to know weather she's good or evil (Like Accelerator in the Torau franchise). Rather than being turned more evil like Westcott was, she is turned good. This also finally confirms who the villain of this sires is... both Kurumi and Westcott are reocurring characters who clearly have screws loose, but Kurumi opens up to Shido here... which makes Westcott the true main antagonist of this sires (I had expected that for a while given how popular Kurumi is, but you still never can be sure).

In conclusion, I think this was a great way to commence "The Beginnig of the End" of the sires (We are clearly entering the Climax here). Some parts were a bit disapointing, especially through the animation. But Date a Live doesn't really need good animation like most shows do... and stuff like that is just a great bonus. I'm not a huge fanboy for this sires, as it's just something I stumbeled across during COVID and enjoyed enough to come back to, but I definetly am excided for season 5!

9/10 story
7/10 animation
10/10 sound
10/10 characters
9/10 overall
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