I'm usually a "by the book" person when it comes to definitions, so the problem for me is that you define a Mary Sue as someone who is perfect, yet you acknowledged she had a flaw, which doesn't make her perfect, therefore not a Mary Sue. I've only reached chapter 70 so far, but she's had tons of trials and tribulations to go through. Firstly, her first life, which was awful. Second, her second life, where she had to work her ass off to become the best surgeon she could be, and third, her current life. Of course things will be easy for her, she's in a world where she's far above everyone in terms of medical knowledge. But she still has to work for what she wants and has even struggled and made mistakes. Latest example for me is when she saved Albert, she accidentally touched the grenade that could've killed her and her friend. Mary Sues wouldn't do that. And like I said before, it's completely understandable that she was scared of the prince for so long. In her past life, he showed her nothing but contempt and hatred and executed her. She was burned at the stake by his order. That's a sign of trauma, not lack of development. By the way, I didn't say she was developed in the first two chapters, but rather in her first two lives. She's had about 40+ years worth of development.
I'm fine with long responses. I like debating about characters I like~
Elise isn't a Mary Sue (her not being street smart like you said contradicts this, since this is a flaw), she's just character who's already been developed. She went through her development in her first and second life, the story is basically seeing the fruits of her development. Also, why wouldnt she be scared of the prince? He was the one who ordered her execution in her first life, right? Where she got burned to death at the stake I believe. Immolation seems pretty traumatic.
Yay! I'm glad I could help! I actually felt the same, I thought the story in of itself was very appealing but I couldn't get past the father thing. I was also quite fond of the art style, so I thought it was unfortunate that I couldn't bring myself to read more. And I ended up reading it again so I guess i got what I wanted haha. I actually found out that shortly after where I stopped reading (about chapter 15 same as you) she stops calling him father, so I found myself thinking " well If I had kept going I would've gotten past that.. whatever-"
Dont get me wrong I also have my own issues with the Doctor Elise story lol. I was just shocked to see the words "unscathed". Also when I responded to your reviews I had no idea they were all by the same person until I saw my notifications and was like "Oh snap. How did that happen?? Oops" So my bad on flooding you with rebuttles on your page :P
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I'm usually a "by the book" person when it comes to definitions, so the problem for me is that you define a Mary Sue as someone who is perfect, yet you acknowledged she had a flaw, which doesn't make her perfect, therefore not a Mary Sue. I've only reached chapter 70 so far, but she's had tons of trials and tribulations to go through. Firstly, her first life, which was awful. Second, her second life, where she had to work her ass off to become the best surgeon she could be, and third, her current life. Of course things will be easy for her, she's in a world where she's far above everyone in terms of medical knowledge. But she still has to work for what she wants and has even struggled and made mistakes. Latest example for me is when she saved Albert, she accidentally touched the grenade that could've killed her and her friend. Mary Sues wouldn't do that. And like I said before, it's completely understandable that she was scared of the prince for so long. In her past life, he showed her nothing but contempt and hatred and executed her. She was burned at the stake by his order. That's a sign of trauma, not lack of development. By the way, I didn't say she was developed in the first two chapters, but rather in her first two lives. She's had about 40+ years worth of development.
I'm fine with long responses. I like debating about characters I like~
Elise isn't a Mary Sue (her not being street smart like you said contradicts this, since this is a flaw), she's just character who's already been developed. She went through her development in her first and second life, the story is basically seeing the fruits of her development. Also, why wouldnt she be scared of the prince? He was the one who ordered her execution in her first life, right? Where she got burned to death at the stake I believe. Immolation seems pretty traumatic.
Yay! I really love Ebony so I'm glad you picked it up again!
Yay! I'm glad I could help! I actually felt the same, I thought the story in of itself was very appealing but I couldn't get past the father thing. I was also quite fond of the art style, so I thought it was unfortunate that I couldn't bring myself to read more. And I ended up reading it again so I guess i got what I wanted haha. I actually found out that shortly after where I stopped reading (about chapter 15 same as you) she stops calling him father, so I found myself thinking " well If I had kept going I would've gotten past that.. whatever-"
Dont get me wrong I also have my own issues with the Doctor Elise story lol. I was just shocked to see the words "unscathed". Also when I responded to your reviews I had no idea they were all by the same person until I saw my notifications and was like "Oh snap. How did that happen?? Oops" So my bad on flooding you with rebuttles on your page :P