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Dr. Stone

Mar 9, 2020

This show has received a lot of hype but in all honesty, it's not as good as they say, it's at least better than average due to it's focusing on science and excellent animation and production values.

The show basically asks the question, if we will have to restart civilization from scratch, but with all of our current knowledge, what can we build and what will we prioritize? So we have a high-schooler with all the knowledge in the world like a MacGyver with a show that is closer to How It's Made, but using the available materials from the stone age.

Unfortunately, the show constantly asks you to ignore the plot holes in the story and just go along, that lack of attention to detail is what breaks this show apart, as there are some things that are just not easy to ignore and given its scientific nature, it just seems cumbersome. The show asks you to pay attention to science and think about what would you do to solve the problems they face, but at the same time, it asks you to be completely oblivious to the obvious plot holes and basically brain dead when it comes to the story, what a drag! If you are a thinker, there are things that just can't be ignored. There are many illogical situations and lots of things that just don't make sense and go unexplained with the story & plot, while the show chooses to focus instead only on building things and acquiring materials. You can read the comments for a description of the plot holes I see with the show, they contain spoilers. 

Another problem is that most characters are one-dimensional, showing a limited number of emotions per character with no development over time.  The show completely ignores psychological issues and normal social interactions and questions that people will normally have due to the circumstances they are put through. Then it tries to pit MacGyver against The Lord of the Flies, who will win? And this is the main plotline so far.

Overall, The show definitely has potential but so far it hasn't been fully utilized. The animation, sound, and music are of excellent quality and you'll find the show is entertaining if you have an interest in science, especially chemistry & physics. Just don't expect a masterpiece.

The dub is ok.

2/10 story
8/10 animation
9/10 sound
3/10 characters
6.5/10 overall

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Halex Jun 8, 2020

It was pointed out to me by slanley that one of my points was wrong, here is the correction:

"I agree on the plot hole of how the lead characters were on the surface all those years later. But you're missing a pretty important detail with all your other plot holes!

THE ASTRONAUTS DID NOT LAND IN JAPAN. they didn't land near a village. The society they founded didn't start next to a village. They landed on a remote island. after the first group to land miscalculated and landed in the ocean, the others had to land on the nearest island and row out to rescue them.

So they don't have anything other than a rowing boat and presumably, didn't want to risk the last six or so human lives going into the open water.

The dad specifically mentions "we're going to need to make them want to get to Japan since that's where Senku will be when he wakes up" where when coming up with the 100 stories for future generations. So we know for sure they didn't land next to the village.

And it makes sense that by the time their first descendants to get to Japan arrived there, nature had taken over and there wasn't technology left to take advantage of or anyone who would even have known how to."

However, I'll have to add to this that the astronauts should have put more emphasis in their future generations to find books in order to unlock the knowledge of their ancestors.

Halex Mar 9, 2020

Hi kitsune641, regarding your comment on my review of Dr. Stone, I didn't want to add spoilers to the review so I left things ambiguous, but the issues I see with the plot are:

(The following contains spoilers)

  • You see Senkuu get petrified inside the laboratory at his High School, but somehow he "floats" his way to surface where he wakes up almost next to Taiju who was petrified outside the High School and washed away at some point.
  • You see all buildings get buried over time and covered by nature, you see that this happens to some most people too, but why this didn't happen to Senkuu & Taiju? They instead are basically at the surface level when they wake up. You see old cities like Turkey with several levels underground and this happens over a couple of centuries, not to mention 3,700 years like in Dr. Stone.
  • Byakuya and his crew were NOT petrified, they are highly skilled scientists able to survive in space in self-contained environments. Why they didn't go into a city and tried to maintain a self-contained building? There are plenty of buildings that have their own generator and technology didn't disappear, there was just no-one to use it. Of course, they would have never been able to maintain a whole city, but they probably had the capacity to maintain a building and make it self-sufficient. They would probably have lots of food in restaurants and supermarkets that could last them a long time with proper refrigeration. As a scientist, they will probably want to preserve a library and store books and media. Considering that they ended up founding the Ishigami village a walking distance from Senkuu's high-school, they were basically next to the city when they found it. There is no explanation for any of this.
  • People in the village should have inherited way more technology than they had, especially considering that the village was close to the city where Senkuu lived, this is probably my biggest issue with the show. Even if a disaster happened and technology had no electricity to work, there are diesel engines they could have used to generate their own electricity, vehicles, tools like hammers and screwdrivers, cooking pans (especially cast iron which is basically indestructible and lasts for generations), books, mangas, medicine, etc, etc. Those things are not going to disappear that easily. Even the song they recorded in glass, at least should have been passed through generations as their only song (although she probably knew more songs considering that she was an artist). What happened to the instruments they had when they recorded the song? Future generations should have picked that up and improved with their own culture over a 3,700 year period. There is really no explanation why the astronauts didn't leave more technology to their kids, especially considering that the village was so close to civilization. Not to mention to at least leave instructions to where to gather books in a library, acquire the contents of a drug store for medicine, etc. They had the whole world for themselves and all the resources left behind, so why they didn't use them? This makes no sense.
  • They mention the village had a population of around 40 people after 3,700 years. What happened? Did they endure a mass-extinction during that period, why the number is so low? They have no TV or Manga for entertainment after all and during times like these families tend to have 3-4 kids to optimize the chances of survival, but they never explain why their population only increased by 1 every 100 years?
  • When they create glass some villager mentions that "it looks like ice", but they have never seen ice, they may have seen snow & frozen water but not ice. Even if they heard about ice through the 100 tales, how would they know how ice looks like?
  • People awaken by Tsukasa are immediately ready to burn a village with kids and seniors. It is true that Tsukasa seems like someone that was used to killing even before the petrification occurs and he is probably waking up people he knew will share his vision for the new world, but from all the people he wake up, there has to be at least someone with a family that wants his/her kids or parents with them and that they are not going to put up with destroying the statues like Tsukasa wants. 
  • Senkuu wastes a lot of time creating things that do not seem a priority given their situation, like the gun powder for example. If they were not going to bomb Tsukasa what is the point of making that, they could instead set some more elaborated traps to catch him. Senkuu says that he is going to attack immediately after the burning of the village, but instead, goes 3 months to create a phone? And why Tsukasa is not attacking during this period? He has someone watching the village and Senkuu's moves for 3 months, they should have figure out they didn't have guns and that they were building something, so why is he letting them do that and wait patiently for Senkuu to finish the phone?
  • Why have no one heard about archeology in this new world? Specially Tsukasa, what is stopping him to dig a gun store and see if some of the guns still work? They will also have knives and swords there built way better than Senkuu could from scratch. There is plenty of technology left in the city, why is no one trying to acquire that? The only reason is that the show wants to focus on building that from scratch using stone-age tools. Honestly, if I wake up after 3,700 years this will be the first thing I do, why re-invent the wheel if you can just go and dig it out of the petrified city? But everyone is ignoring this issue so far.

There are more but this will suffice to explain what I refer to as plot holes in the story.

Thanks for giving me a chance to explain things further, let me know your thoughts.

kitsune641 Mar 9, 2020

I assume that you're talking about how "it" starts if so the biggest plot hole is the "stone" part of "Dr. Stone" if that's the case it should be explained by the end. And yes they didn't go into the psychological issues but it's not a psychological so it doesn't per se have to go into it all or how that might mess you up also, it's more of a "brains vs strength" story.