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Discussion in 'Entertainment' started by Guest, Apr 27, 2017.

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Best Stoner Comedy

Poll closed Jul 27, 2019.
  1. Up In Smoke

    11.1%
  2. How High

    22.2%
  3. Half Baked

    11.1%
  4. Dude, Where's My Car?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle

    33.3%
  6. Dazed and Confused

    11.1%
  7. Pineapple Express

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Reefer Madness (lol)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Friday

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Saving Grace

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. The Big Lebowski

    55.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Schizm

    Schizm Well-Known Member

    We're watching on his Netflix account and he's way too dependent on their recommendations "Ooh look, Nicholas Cage and Elijah Wood in one movie, must be good!". Now there's Get Hard on our list too, a Will Ferrell movie about him having to go to prison. Sounds so fucking typical and by the numbers, but with all the other movies being such joyless slugs, I gladly welcome it.

    And yes to everything you said regarding OGF. After Drive Nicolas Winding Refn didn't exactly manage another film as good so far but damn, if he doesn't love his awkward silences.
     
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  2. ZetsubouKaiji

    ZetsubouKaiji Forum Moderator Database Moderator

    Oh man, Netflix's recommendation system is the absolute worst. They will recommend the most oddball shit and now that they've switched to a simple thumbs up, thumbs down model rather than star it has even less nuance.

    Good luck with Get Hard. I haven't seen it, but I don't think I've ever seen a Will Ferrell movie I've ever ever enjoyed. The trailers for it all looked terrible, so it's one probably dog shit movie I've managed to avoid.
     
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  3. randomredneck

    randomredneck Well-Known Member

    Netflix is pointless anyway.
     
  4. Schizm

    Schizm Well-Known Member

    I like some of Ferrell's work but it's always the same to varying degrees, much like Adam Sandler movies (most of which any decent human being will stay the hell away from). I blame Netflix for ruining my friend's movie picking skills. He also refuses to watch anything older than the 1990s since he has it, which is just fucking stupid.

    Don't wanna rant so much, but the movies are getting to me. Bring out the chainsaws already, goddammit!
     
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  5. ZetsubouKaiji

    ZetsubouKaiji Forum Moderator Database Moderator

    Netflix's movie selection seems to be getting progressively worse, but it's totally worth it for their original series and their catalog of older TV series. There's lots of stuff I really wouldn't want to buy or waste time using other means to get my hands on, but if it's easy available to stream, then I'm more likely to take a punt on it.

    Netflix is always going to be on my good side as long as they're making new episodes of Bojack Horseman.
     
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  6. randomredneck

    randomredneck Well-Known Member

    Oh, please. Even their original shows aren't that good.

    Depressing cartoon about a horse.
    Crappy Voltron update (Why is Pidge a girl? God.)
    Mediocre prison show.
    And a slew of dreary as balls Marvel shows featuring C-list as best heroes.

    How it hasn't folded in on itself yet eludes me.
     
  7. ZetsubouKaiji

    ZetsubouKaiji Forum Moderator Database Moderator

    That only makes up a tiny portion of their original series. They've got a wide variety of original series and they've rescued a few series that couldn't find a home elsewhere. If it wasn't for Netflix I would have never gotten a fourth and upcoming fifth season of Arrested Development. They can provide more niche content, since they're not beholden to ad revenue. They've got a lot of good foreign series that are an absolutely bitch to find anywhere else, too.

    And as I just mentioned on @GenSan's profile there are movies on there that I highly enjoyed, but probably would have never watched otherwise.

    You might personally hate it, but don't let that cloud your perception of its success. It's nowhere even close to folding in on itself. It's actually really good value for relatively little expense.
     
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  8. randomredneck

    randomredneck Well-Known Member

    AKA, shows that sucked and got cancelled. So nice they gave them a second chance...

    Oh, yay. More seasons of a show nobody really watched, but everyone acts like I'm supposed to like.

    Like I can't find a foreign show with a quick Google search.

    I KNOW. That's why I hate it. Cause it's pointless, killing television and people are eating it up.
     
  9. Starletka

    Starletka Well-Known Member

    And Stranger Things? (I thought it was very meh, but a lot of people like that show.)
     
  10. randomredneck

    randomredneck Well-Known Member

    ...I thought that was on Showtime. Guess not.
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Posted by Guest on May 12, 2017
    #71
    Watched The Rebel, a Vietnamese martial arts/historical picture. It was an interesting setting (French occupied Vietnam, early 1900's) and there were some pretty competent action sequences with a couple really good hits. A serviceable action film overall but nothing I'd go out of my way to watch.

    I then tried to watch Johnny Mnemonic. Nothing annoys me more than an attempt at a hard sci-fi movies where the actual science is so stupid I can hardly get past that. Plus, Reeves, who I tend to like despite his acting chops being nonexistent, might be at his absolute worst in this film.
     
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Posted by Guest on May 12, 2017
    #72
    AKA shows that had a niche audience or were cancelled because FOX has a nasty habit of cancelling shows that have a fanbase but don't perform well enough for them to make a ton of money. Firefly and Arrested Development being examples. They may be "cult" shows to some, but there is definitely a market for more of these type of shows. Same with MST3K, it's a cult series with a large following. Netflix is throwing money at niche audiences who television doesn't service. An even better example of FOX shitting on their shows: Futurama. Airing new episodes at 6 or 630 during football season meant that the episodes never aired or were pushed back. FOX is godawful with handling their popular IPs so it's nice to see interest from others who might actually treat said IP with respect.

    I don't know a single person who hasn't watched Arrested Development, but that's just me. It's one of those shows that people love to quote constantly and, as a person who hates comedy, is one of the few comedy series I've ever seen that appeals to me. I don't know where you get the idea nobody watched Arrested Development. I think pop culture in general would beg to differ.

    You can find a lot of foreign shows through Google, sure, but having a legal outlet to watch them is a safer bet than pirating and Netflix quality and lack of porn ads on sidebars is always a bonus compared to whatever streaming website is the alternative.

    Netflix is killing television because television sucks and more people want to watch what they want when they want. Netflix is good for me because it has every season of Star Trek, a show that would otherwise cost me hundreds of dollars to own every episode of and only plays reruns on BBC every weekend. I won't deny that the majority of their original programming has been pretty lackluster, but I also can't deny that the service is extremely useful for those of us who would rather enjoy the content they are consuming than sit in front of a television set, scanning through 1000 channels with nothing on only to have to scan through the channels again just to find something serviceable. Television has been killing itself for years anyway. People have grown tired of reality shows, cop shows, and dumb sitcoms. More people are turning toward binge watching and shows containing actual plots that act as long-form movies. Its why HBO is seeing so much success, AMC is seeing the same, and FX as well. Audiences crave more intelligent and comprehensive television shows and are sick of the crap. If streaming kills TV I could care less. I want to see Comcast go down in flames anyway.
     
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  13. ZetsubouKaiji

    ZetsubouKaiji Forum Moderator Database Moderator

    You can blame a lot of the films problems on studio interference. It was written as a completely different film with more dark comedy, but then studio demanded a shitload of rewrites making the film a tonal mess. The science is stupid, because the studio wanted a bunch of elements popular at the time to be added in, but became quickly dated, because the mid-90s was a soul sucking time that couldn't do anything right.

    It's a horrible film overall and it's hard to imagine that it would have been good even if the studio hadn't interfered. Reeves is at his most flat and affectless. And it's just sooo 90s. Like we were talking about earlier today, the mid to late 90s were not a fun time for movies. There was a general pessimism and cynicism that was a complete rejection of more easy going and fun loving 70s. I could go on a long rant about how the 90s in particular drained all the fun out of science fiction. I like dystopian stuff a lot, because it can be thought provoking and get a good emotional response, but man sometimes you just need a little optimism in science fiction and looking toward the future.

    I like Reeves as an actor as well, but especially back in the early to mid-90s he needed a strong director to get the best out him. These days a he's matured a bit, but he'll still capable of giving awful performances, just try to watch Knock, Knock or better yet don't. Eli Roth is a hack and we should stop encouraging him to make movies.
     
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  14. randomredneck

    randomredneck Well-Known Member

    And there's Firefly. The generic, blase sci-fi show that people treat like the second coming of Star Wars. Trotted out every time someone hates Fox. They cancelled it cause it sucked. That's it.

    The whole "cult following" is a load.

    MST3K ran for like 10 seasons. It is not a "cult" show.

    AKA, throwing money at shows that would die on TV like they should.

    Oh, Futurama. You mean the uncancelled show with 4 movies, 2 additional seasons and zero Netflix in sight?

    You do now.

    Pop culture also said people watched Buffy. NO ONE watched Buffy.

    One, I don't care about 'legal outlets'. I've made that abundantly clear in regards to anime.
    Two, it's called AdBlock.

    Television is fine. And if people can't wait a goddamn week for the next episode, that's their problem not mine.

    EVERYONE has Star Trek. From frigging NBC.com, to reruns on local cable. It's not hard to find.

    Again, others peoples impatience is not my problem.

    Cause Netflix doesn't have ANY of that. Not like they rebooted FULL HOUSE or anything...

    Binge watching is stupid. It kills any conversation about the show, cause all people wanna discuss in the finale.

    And I wanna see Netflix implode. Cause it's pointless and stupid.
     
  15. Vega

    Vega Well-Known Member

    Posted by Vega on May 12, 2017
    #75
    I just finished watching The Holy Mountain, pretty safe to say that this is the ultimate "What the Fuck?" movie. It might sound like I disliked the film but I enjoyed it despite how weird it was and found parts of it to be almost hypnotic, especially this scene (putting video in spoiler tags due to some NSFW content):
    Didn't expect the fourth wall breaking moment in the ending, which was actually quite brilliant in a way.
    Not quite sure how I'd rate this, but I'd say it was pretty great.
     
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  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Posted by Guest on May 12, 2017
    #76
    I watched Collateral starring Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise. While I wasn't entirely enamored by the directing, I quite enjoyed the story and performances. Tom Cruise was killer in this film and Jamie Foxx's character arc kept me pretty involved at a level I haven't felt with a lot of movies lately. Definitely worth a watch if you like crime dramas, very unique.

    I followed that up with Over The Top, a movie I quit because it was god-awful. Stallone plays a trucker whose son is the most insufferable little prick in film history. There's arm wrestling somewhere in there but the son made me want to hang myself.

    So I watched Road House instead. Fantastic little B-movie with great action, performances, and the kind of backroads Americana setting I really enjoy (I'm a huge Jack Reacher fan, the novels not the movies; I love badass guys going into towns and kung-fuing their way through the local rabble). If you're a fan of cheesy action movies, it's definitely worth a watch. Its got enough boobs and violence to sate any thirst.
     
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  17. Starletka

    Starletka Well-Known Member

    Ha! Now here's a popular show that everyone loves that I actually genuinely enjoyed. :D But, yeah, it's overhyped as hell. (*cough* like Star Wars *cough*)
     
  18. randomredneck

    randomredneck Well-Known Member

    ...See, you kind of agreed with me. Now I don't wanna argue about stuff anymore...
     
  19. Taek

    Taek Well-Known Member

    Posted by Taek on May 13, 2017
    #79
    More of a question about movie making than movies themselves, but do you consider narration breaking the 4th wall?
     
  20. HasseRovdjur

    HasseRovdjur Breast Claw

    Only if it recognises the events as actually fictional and point out that it's a film. Narration is supposed to be for the audience, so just talking directly to the audience doesn't feel like it's enough.
     

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