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roriconfan

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  • Joined Dec 22, 2011
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Yuken May 25, 2012

Da) "To me." Sure. But let me put it this way. Let's say we are fighting a war against each other right now. Just for the purpose of making the statement, yeah? I could walk away from this right now and declare you the winner. Alright, cool. You might have won in the sense that you've beat me in debate. But if I've won the hearts of the people that witnessed this event, then surely they will be more inclined to follow my ideas rather than yours, right?

Truth isn't black and white. Sure, there might be an absolute behind it all. But people make the truth. You seek something greater which is respectable, but you think on a different level than most. You can't ever hope to really win in human terms with such extreme ideas. Take note of how many have banned you from forums or just gave up talking to you.

You want to make it about them losing. They just don't see eye to eye with you and are tired of talking to a wall. It's a nature response to just stop something that seems pointless. The fact that you want to make it about seeing enjoyment in beating people just means you are immature. Finding enjoyment in such things is something a bully would find enjoyable in the 5th grade. You're 30 years old, isn't it time to move on from that type of behavior?

Db) Sheep = No Logical thought. Is being a sheep...bad? I think they are cute and fluffy! In all seriousness. Your religion reflects what you believe. At least that's good. I still disagree with you. Your desire to not be a sheep is born out of hatred of mediocrity. To be above a human when you are a human. Dismiss and hate out of a need to place yourself above them. I don't know man, I don't like this viewpoint at all. It's so...arrogant.

1) Valid. I misread what you stated. Sorry. I can accept the fact that I was wrong here and admit it.

2) I didn't call you a troll. Merely providing an example of why trolling is successful. Reread please.

4) Maybe it is true that most don't care. But I don't think the reason they demand reward without work is so different than your demands of logic and reason. They both derive from individuals who believe themselves to be above others. The difference is only in the demand itself.

I don't know man. I've stated everything I've wanted to state. You take what I've said and apply logic to it when I'm trying to tell you that the very act of doing so is why you can't see eye to eye with me, or by looking at your status on the internet, very many people.

I totally respect that you want logic and reason to be a big part of your life. I really, really do. But there is no benefit to any of it other than yourself. It's a selflish demand to ask of people. It's nearly impossible to ask of most individuals. I used to think and believe just like you. But coming from poverty and being a witness to real people struggling has clearly made a big impact on my beliefs. We are both merely limited by what we've seen and experienced.

I'm done with this. You can take the "win" if that's what you want to call it by your standards. Just know that unless the majority believes that you have won you can't actually say you've won. It's human history for people to follow their beliefs no matter how illogical because they feel it is proper rather than something that is logically sound. Why do you think so many religious wars have been fought? Without the command of the sheep your truth means absolutely nothing.

I do hope that at the very least you can find enjoyment in something other than winning in debate or making others feel inferior. There are a lot of other enjoyable things in this life that I'm sure you're missing out on because of this. I truly, and absolutely feel sorry for you. I wish I could feel angry, but all I feel is pity. For, I too was once blinded by this state of mind. I hope you overcome it as I did. Take care.

Yuken May 25, 2012

D) It doesn't matter if you win, it matters if you convince them that you have won. Everyone plays a different game. If you don't understand the mechanics of the game you'd never be able to teach someone how to beat it. I'm agnostic. I gravitate towards science and logic in belief because that's what I can understand. I don't hold grudges against any religion, because I understand that they believe for reasons that are not logical. I can accept that.

1) I can disprove all of your facts by simply saying. "You are wrong." It really doesn't matter what reason you use or how beautiful your logic is. It's interesting that you don't believe these people are important. It's not about them being weak or worthless. If you had been born in a world of poverty, or rather if you had been raised and taught in "worthless" ways you would also live your life by different weaker standards. If you had never been given a book or taught the proper way you would be far from where you are right now. To claim that people are not important because they are unable to see what you see is just extreme. You find it hard to sympathize because you live in a logical world. As I said before, you are essentially commiting silent genocide. You are so against it right? Why is one form of genocide okay and not the other?

2) From my experience this is also the case. It's why trolling is so effective despite how obvious your troll is. People react to your words and draw conclusions. Some people are simply unable to shut people off. Curiosity is a rather interesting thing.

4) The world would likely advance a lot quicker. We would be able to resolve a lot of unsolvable or far out of the way issues and questions about who we are and where we are going. We would be able to do great things I'm sure. But, I wouldn't want to completely alter the way humanity works in order to get those results. Results that are not honest are not worth the reward. People should reach conclusions because they want to, not because they have been conditioned to believe in logic and order. Such a belief system is so unnatural and inhumane when you really think about it.

No.

Pirosporos May 25, 2012

Stop posting troll comments on other's reviews pls

Yuken May 25, 2012

A) Then you don't understand the main focal point of the argument.

B) But, I like, totally don't think you are right and stuff.

C) Inferior in philosophy? Agreed. Inferior in enjoyment? Absolutely not. In my opinion of course.

D) Why do you hate this word so much? I don't think bias as a word is stupid. The fact that you hate it is actually, bias in itself. It is indeed impossible to have zero bias. But just because you justify it does not give you the right to claim your bias is the proper bias. It's like an argument of religion vs atheism. Everyone believes they are correct, but cannot really convince others that they are right. Arguing logic against belief is just two extreme thought processes that can't ever hope to come to agreement. Do you see why our discussion is similar?

1) You are stating that the truth of the matter is more important than how an individual came to such a conclusion. Where I might agree with truth being important, we will never actually get to the truth if we can't convince people to stop believing that the sun is green. They've been told this their entire lives, you know? How do you know you are right anyway? It's important to take a step down for these individuals and try to convince them otherwise. By your logic, the people that believe in such things aren't important to you. Would you then believe the world to be better if we ignored everyone unable to apply logic to idea? Is that really okay? It's like silent genocide.

2) You'll never make sense of people using logic. Humanity as a whole has done so many things and progressed as a civilization based on emotion. Everyones idea of logic and reason is different. That is why I don't think it is fair to try to make sense of it using my own standards of right and wrong. It's impossible for me to know how someone might perceive things. It's also equally impossible to tell them their perceptions are wrong.

3) Completely and utterly disagree with you.

4) You are just using yet another personal bias to prove why video 1 is better than video 2. You don't value opinion or thought that isn't logically sound and coherent. You want information to be logical and to make sense to you. You want everyone to be at your level and think in the same manner that you do. Why? Is it your misguided belief that the world would be a better place if everyone thought like you? Is it really so bad to let emotion take control of people? Is it really so bad for someone to be unable to apply your definition of logic to ideas?

Stop, just stop. We won't ever hope to convince each other of our viewpoints.