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I couldn't help but notice this in your big argument with Yuken.
"If you didn't notice it, the number of anime fans has decreased a lot these past 5 years. Most got sick of all the fan service and the needless gore and turned to western cartoons and series."
I'm sorry to say, but this statement is untrue. Have you looked at con attendance (Mainly in the U.S. one of the biggest markets for anime there is-though it's dying as while the number of fans increase, profits have fallen like a rock)? It's been increasing ever single year. The popularity of anime has been increasing every single year. Many older fans may have left yes, but they get replaced by the newer fans who are going apeshit over shows like Puella Magi Madoka Magica.
I've also noticed how you complain people here who like Naruto and moe shows a lot for example are causing them to make more crap, and are the death of what you consider quality anime.
It should be noted, if you're not a Japanese otaku buying the $90 2 episode Blu-ray singles, your opinion means very little to them. They will listen to the Japanese otaku first. Making shows for the non-Japanese audience isn't profitable really anymore as prices here and licensing costs have dropped like a rock. Sales from only other markets isn't enough to support the production of an entire show. They're wondering if it's worth even letting their shows come here at all (And this was happening before moe was everywhere here).
Gonzo for example had financial problems thanks to making many shows targetted towards the western audience that were well-received and sold well by our standards, but simply couldn't make enough a profit as anime does not make much money due to being a niche market (Hell it's mostly niche in Japan).
So simply, it's futile to blame those here. If anything, you should blame the Japanese otaku. They're the ones buying moe shows in droves (Though many bomb hard).
The smiley face seemed more appropriate in that situation, rather than saying: "Yes, I like seeing stupid little bitch ass girls suffer what they deserve." I dont read much about manga though. I'm too lazy to read manga. I've tried. I work 12hrs a day, 5 days a week and 70% of the time on saturday, and 20% of the time on sunday. I'm an industrial technician (maintenance/automation). Unfortunately, I dont have the energy (most of the time) to argue/think deeply about stuff anymore. I'd rather relax and play a game or watch some anime! :)
Keep on trollin, keep on learning, peace bro
After having a lengthy discussion with my friend, we've decided to see if you were still interested in a skype conversation. I'd love to just sit down and talk get your side and try to connect on the ideas that we both tried to relay but missed.
Me, I actually liked the lack of a grander scale. I love psychological stuff, I don't think any story must necessairly become a fight to save the world. A good visual representation of an internal, psychological struggle always gets me. And I didn't find the characters so annoying...I mean, OK they cry a lot (hey, it's middle school girls we're talking about, not adults, after all...), but I don't really see that as a defect. They explored nicely their psychology (with the partial exception of Mato) and/or their backstories, and for me that worked alright, it was intense enough and...well, not really that stereotypical. I mean, the real Yuu's backstory is quite dark, it shows an extreme form of escaping from one's hardships; or Yomi's development, it said a lot to me. I loved how they portrayed the longtime-friend-type relationship between mato and Yuu, for example, or in general all the friendships (I always dig "power of friendship" over "power of love". Or "bros before hoes", in less nerdy terms...XD).
Plus, I think it's an oversimplification to just call it a Vocaloid anime. After all, the Vocaloid song picked up what huke had already done with his artwork without Vocaloid imput. From what I read, he created the Black Rock Shooter character before Miku was all the buzz and then just made her ponytails longer to make her look like Miku. I don't particularly like Supercell, but I love the fact that they made it from the internet, from scratch. A fanartist created a character and a background, a non-professional composer created a song about it, the mix was good so it caught up, and now it's "famous". It gives an aspiring musician/composer like me hope, you know? :P
But hey, we all have our opinions. I did read your review some time ago, I didn't remember right away it was you, and while I agree with almost nothing you wrote I enjoyed reading it. You know why you like or don't like something and can argument it and that's what matters. It was a fun conversation. ^_^
No, wait, I did not say anything so radical. I said, "I believe that (...) (it) has the potential to leave a lasting impact (...). I wouldn’t go as far as saying that everyone will like it, but (...)". What I mean is, I believe it may be remembered and is good enough to. I'm not saying it sets a new standard.And again, don't go around saying the majority this the majority that. Just look at the rating statistics on Anime-Planet and AnimeNewsNetwork (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13310): the average rating seems to be real good. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to use other people's judgment as proof of the show's quality, that would be a logical fallacy, I'm just saying.Finally, I think it did say something interesting, and that it lasted what it needed to last. Sure, I'm not saying it's on the same level as, say, Evangelion or Saikano or Cowboy Bebop, but it did its job in creating a strong story with strong characters.