Discussion in 'Specific Anime Discussion' started by lagore, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. lagore

    lagore New Member

    Posted by lagore on Feb 14, 2009

    Excellent series. One of my favorites. What do you think?

    Last edited: Feb 14, 2009
  2. r18

    r18 Ojii-san

    Posted by r18 on Feb 14, 2009
    i don't know exactly why but the whole series just left me unsatisfied it was sort of wooden and lacked emotional power.
  3. Adam

    Adam New Member

    Posted by Adam on Feb 14, 2009
    I only felt that with the second part. The first one was great.
  4. Sandbar

    Sandbar New Member

    Posted by Sandbar on Feb 14, 2009
    GUNGRAVE is one of the most awesomely terrific animes out there!!! :drink:
  5. Ascendancy

    Ascendancy New Member

    Posted by Ascendancy on Feb 15, 2009
    Watched 3 ep's so far and the animation is soo damn annoying and bad. Story is nice though.
  6. VivisQueen

    VivisQueen Active Member

    Posted by VivisQueen on Feb 15, 2009
    Is that your objective assessment?
  7. Lyzl

    Lyzl New Member

    Posted by Lyzl on Feb 15, 2009
    lol @ vivisqueen and sandbar.

    On the "objective" standpoint (if there could be such a thing), it's fairly good. It's difficult to fault the series, and the core story is very well done. However, personally, I found it quite dull. The story lacked a lot of emotional power for me, even though that seemed to be the focus (Deaths, betrayal, power, greed, friendship, etc, seemed to be some of the themes, yet I didn't feel much emotion from it). I kinda thought back through it near the end and found myself thinking that they did a whole lot right, but I was wondering where the entertainment was.

    I think though, that the most annoying feature for me, was the shift from a realistic gritty world, to a sci-fi supernatural actionfest. It was just quite jarring, and made the anime seem so much less streamlined.
  8. VivisQueen

    VivisQueen Active Member

    Posted by VivisQueen on Feb 15, 2009
    Yeah, the sci fi was very badly handled. I get the feeling Gungrave is scripted by a thriller writer who suddenly fancied dabbling in sci-fi. The sci-fi elements were so corny it hurt. However, I made myself ignore them and found it entertaining nonetheless.

    Gungrave's 'entertainment', by the way, is the same kind of entertainment you'd get from watching GoodFellas or Scarface. It's about watching someone tumble through a particularly nasty kind of hell filled with corruption, greed, violence, and ending up in a situation where death is the only decent option. In short, it's gripping cause it's a mafia show. :/
  9. evan1979

    evan1979 New Member

    Posted by evan1979 on Feb 15, 2009
    well, you saw the zombies the first episode so you knew it was coming.

    one big killer for me was gungraves costume, it seemed very arbitrary that the scientist would dress him up in such a ridiculous costume. lol, it really makes me lauph.

    each one of the final four decided to fight gungrave alone seemed contridictory to their serous fear of gungrave... the samurai guy was understandable to take him on alone, the rest would have ganged up on him, if not, whats the point of being in a gang?
  10. Gundevil

    Gundevil New Member

    Posted by Gundevil on Feb 15, 2009
    I agree with Viv. I thought the sci-fi aspect of the series undermined the realistic feeling of the earlier episodes. What made it an entertaining romp was the the deep characterization and slow-moving narrative of friendship, trust, and betrayal--not that it had cool action scenes where a cool guy destroys some zombies. Overall, I thought Gungrave was good, but not great. It had so much potential and the first 12 episodes or so really had my hopes up.

    WARNING- spoiler below for Gungrave and Death Note
    The pinnacle of the series was certainly when Harry killed Brandon-- much like Death note's pinnacle was when Light killed L. Both those scenes were amazing and could have made for great endings. Unfortunately, both shows had less than stellar conclusions.
  11. ForgottenSon

    ForgottenSon New Member

    I'd be less charitable than that. It seemed to me like it was crowbarred in for marketing purposes. OTT, cheesy Sci-Fi seems to do very well amongst anime fans.
  12. Sandbar

    Sandbar New Member

    Posted by Sandbar on Feb 16, 2009

    Not my most thorough review - but the essence is still there. :laugh:
  13. lagore

    lagore New Member

    Posted by lagore on Feb 16, 2009
    Yeah, I'd summarize it as a fantastic character drama, with a few unfortunate sci-fi elements.
  14. ParaParaJMo

    ParaParaJMo New Member

    I rented the game when it came out years and years ago and thought it was only worth a rental, but I remember thinking it would make a helluva fucking awesome anime. The game is really short and doesn't offer much replay value, but I still loved the art and design to it.

    I barely got into the anime for the first time since playing it years ago since I found the DVDs at a garage sale I bought for $10. I'm almost done with it now. I really enjoy Seki Tomokazu as Heat/Grave. I think he captures his character very well. The (forced) Sci-Fi kind of reminds me of Skullman - except in Skullman of course, it felt it made more sense and was done better. I didn't get a feel of what point in time the anime takes place in until
    You see Brandon's grave that takes place far into the future
    to really justify the bizarre technology. But hey, I'm into bizarre stuff (like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure).

    I really enjoy it's mix of Scarface, Ryuu Ga Gotoku/Yakuza, Godfather, Skullman, and Trigun though at times some of its elements do feel out of place, but I still managed to enjoy.
  15. Bixie

    Bixie New Member

    Posted by Bixie on Feb 16, 2009
    Awesome Series!
  16. Ascendancy

    Ascendancy New Member

    Posted by Ascendancy on Feb 27, 2009
    Whoo finished it now. Episode 2-15 went through in one day, but after that i really had to force myself to finish this.
    It was like a bad action game.
    With every episode a new boss, all with horrible character design. Honestly, Bob looked too lame :/
    Also Mika was totally annoying and whiny.

    I'll treasure this series for the first half of the series, but damn those gay zombies.
  17. valondar

    valondar New Member

    Posted by valondar on Mar 13, 2009
    Episode 1:

    Um. Yeah. I know everyone says that the first episode is terrible and then the show picks up hard.

    Well they're kind of right; at least about this episode sucking. This episode is an incoherent mess that makes Spriggan look like a carefully multilayered and highly textured work of narrative art. It's a half-cocked Hellsing and I sorta liked Hellsing (the series haven't seen the OVA). We'll see where they're going with this.
  18. VivisQueen

    VivisQueen Active Member

    Posted by VivisQueen on Mar 13, 2009
    My turn to encourage you. Lol. The first episode doesn't even make sense until you get towards the end of the series. That's how disconnected it'll seem. But yeah, enjoy the rest. ^_^
  19. lagore

    lagore New Member

    Posted by lagore on Mar 13, 2009
    Yeah seriously.
  20. KelsieKatt

    KelsieKatt New Member

    Posted by KelsieKatt on Mar 13, 2009
    Lucky for me I already played the original Gungrave game long before seeing any part of the anime, so the first episode makes total sense to me :P Lol

    Don't be surprised if I comment on comparisons to the video game it was based off while we're watching the series. :smile:

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