Infinite Ryvius

[sothis]

Infinite Ryvius
(a.k.a. Mugen no Ryvius)

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what exactly did the bully girls do to kozue? does it explain it in the manga, or is it known somehow? it seems like they did more than just beat her up, if she was standing in the shower... and the way the other girl says "what is with that wound" seems a bit odd as well.

[Shadizzy]

if i remember correctly, they cut her the face I think, cause they wanted her to see if her man would still love her, But then I faintly remember her showing her face later on and nothing was on it. If thats the case they cut her probably somewhere else, or they could of just SMACKED THE SHIT OUT OF HER!!!

[sothis]

yea, there definitely wasnt anything on her face when they finally showed it... but she was always wearing ikumi's baggy clothing after that. i had thought maybe this was a sign that her body got cut up or fucked up somehow... though it could have been just that since they were suddenly all close because of that shit going down, she wanted to wear his clothes

[Shift_]

So I've watched this series now, and it's REALLY good.

But it left me with some questions.

Why did Blue's method of controlling the ship work, and not Ikumi's? Why didn't the Zwei's way work either?
What was the fundimental 'thing' that Kouji was trying to tell/teach everyone, that ended up saving everyone?
Why was everyone else 'wrong' so to speak?
what role did Heigar play to make everyone seem to follow his trap?
What is the fundimental 'story' behind this series?

HOW the fuck did the ship become so chaotic? It makes no sense to me what so ever how a ship could become so disorderly (but I watched this series late at night after work) Like seriously, I wanted to like reach in and KILL everyone for being so stupid and letting the ship all go haywire. IT really did seem Blue was the only one who could really control the ship well.

I know the questions are VERY general...but I want to clear them up.

[dreadful]

To answer some of your questions:

For the last question, read Lord of the Flies the situations are very similar and I would guess kids have only ways to act without adult supervision and not being fully mature to realize what needs to be done rather than fullfilment of desires (even though if it is wanting to protect someone, it's still wanting)

why Blue's way worked, I guess he was the intermediate (notice the order of people in charge in the series, Zwei (too liberal, rules aren't enforced), Blue (somewhere in between and most mature of the leaders, knew when to push his way around and when to turn blind eye, also had separate agenda from the others) and Ikumi (too strict, didn't leave any liberties to general populace, too oppressive) at least that's my take on it.

as far as the fundamentals or morals (unless i'm misunderstanding), I thing that's left to viewer's interpretation. "know when to stop, but fight when must fight" "Stick to the golden middle"
Love this one "You tried your best and you failed. The lesson is - never try".

Anyway it's been over a year since i've seen the series and that's all I can remember for now.

[Shift_]

So I guess kouji was one of the very few that ACCTUALLY wanted to do something that would be the BEST for everyone else, where everyone else just wanted to do what they wanted to do?

[dreadful]

not sure, maybe just like blue he knew when to stop. After all, every leader thought that they were doing what's best for the others even though they had personal agendas getting in the way. Though you're right majority of the population just wanted what's best for them.

[evan1979]

wow, this is an old thread :)
i just ordered infinite ryvius after seeing some clips on you tube and seeing that this was the director of planetes and code guisse. both shows i really enjoyed so this seems like a safe bet.

[evan1979]

im always looking to improve my writing, all critiques welcome, thanks. also, my indentions aren't showing up, i'm not sure what i did wrong...

Story- 9


This ambitious story is well handled by then first-time director Gorō Taniguchi (of Planetes and Code Geass fame) who succeeds in giving us a smart story in terms of both character depth and plot. Light and dark are also present in the twenty plus characters who take the spotlight and this where the show truly rises above the average. We are sown through the characters the villain in all of us, ever elusive, and rising where we are least guarded. It is this realism that makes Infinite Ryvius unique and genuine, and yet so frustrating to watch. On a number of occasions i found myself resisting the urge to shake my TV and yell at a character "what are you doing?!" By the end i was that emotionally invested in the show and while it can easily be said the show has a slow start (expect five episodes of pure setup) it builds like a quiet giant slowly sneaking up on the half suspecting viewer.

I almost want to say the first half was too slow but after finishing the show i had this renewed interest to watch it again. So much had changed in the character hierarchy, and the characters themselves, that the beginning seemed like ancient history, a vague recollection of false hopes.

I would also like to comment on the world in which the characters find themselves in. This sci-fi world is reminiscent of the 60s and 70s sci-fi "what if" novels where the basic principle is "invent some new technology or event and show not only how it affects everyone's lives, but how it charges, or doesn't change humanity itself. well this is accomplished with the Gedult phenomenon, a sort of galaxy wide storm emanating from the sun along the planetary axis, effectively halting further space development. This is where the Ryvius comes in, a new breed of ship that can "submerge" in the storm giving the ship a U boat feel. I wish they would have capitalized on this u-boat aspect more which would have complimented the tension on board the ship perfectly. Instead we are treated with pretty standard-fair space battles.

+ unique situation
+ great characters
+ large well rounded cast
+ strong sci-fi world

- First half doesn't stand-up as well on its own


Animation- 8


I was very happy with the style of animation and for having such a large cast it was fairly easy to distinguish one character from another. I read somewhere that there where inconsistencies with character proportions, I didn't see this though. The children s proportions where a bit stylized yes, but it was consistent throughout the show and whoever was their lead animator is very good.

Subtitling on the other hand was a joke. i was treated to tiny, yellow, indiscernible text who laughed at my futile attempts to decipher them as they flashed on and off the screen at a rate only a speed reader could love (and some may wonder why people buy hong kong copies). Fed up, i finally, and probably foolishly, began pausing every other line, insistent i finish the show the way i began it, with subtitles.

The animation as a whole was not the best but considering the huge cast of characters, the time it takes to do each character and what i assume was a lower budget resulted in a slightly sparce/rouph quality to some of the scenes. in the end the true test of animation is "did you believe it?" I did.

+ strong style
+ good character design
+ good tech

- poor production values

Sound- 5


As you can tell from the score this section is far inferior to the rest of the show. The dub i only listened to for about 3 episodes and had the same lack of talent and subtlety you find in most anime dubs. for a show that is so reliant on its script ( which is superb) everything was as i feared, overacted when not needed. But hey, that's every anime right, so i cant score it low for the norm? well the music was even worse, awful is the first word that comes to mind. luckily its almost non-existent too... Or maybe i blocked it out. What i do recall is this break-beat, record-scratching theme they play every commercial break as if to inform you that the conspicuous lack of music should be appreciated. Which is sad because, for me , animation is far more dependent on music to help convey emotion than a regular live action show. sound isn't all bad though, the sound effects were fitting and i could appreciate the Japanese voice talents.

+ japanese voices
+ sound effects were fitting

- music is awful
- dubb is overacted (the norm)

Overall- 8.5


I so wanted to give this a better score because its a bad ass story and the show was close to greatness, surprising though is what seriously held Infinite Ryvius back wasn't a crap story or lack of character depth, only its poor production values in animation and more importantly sound.

For myself, i really enjoyed the show and i imagine it appealing to the kind of person who couldn't wait to go to sociology class or just fans of serious sci-fi in general.

[alexander]

Watching this because there aren't too many realistic space shows.

Music is by the guy who did Seikai no monshou, but I don't like the hip hop jingles. His son by the way composed for Nadesico.

ep2

In ep1 it really annoyed me how badly designed Delta is. Bulkheads people can't open? No emergency air locks? Yet a way around all this, even without decontamination? It wasn't even that necessary for the story.

Some strange use of German, like calling those space clouds 'patience'.

Yuuki and by extension his fan Aoi are getting on my nerves. Hope he becomes a bad guy ;)

But it's probably intentionally jarring. They went right to the limit with how often we heard that idiot student in command.