Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2

[MacrossFX22]

Originally Posted by Xennon

Ah, so there WAS a method to their madness!

That rocked. Simple.

Yeah when I saw the bail of hay and C.C. was in it, I definitely thought Lelouch was driving the cart, especially with the paper crane. Happy ending. Although they never answered a couple questions(or I just didn't pick up on it). What happened to Toudou? Did he die? And what about Gino? although I could care less. How was Guilford still alive?

There are a couple more small bearable questions but I am VERY satisfied with the ending. I love endings where it shows what is happening a couple days/months later.

Also, about the R2 theory. It certainly makes perfect sense, but why R2? why not L2? how did they get the R? And more on that, what the hell is C.C.'s name?

*edit* don't quote me on this, but i would assume they would play Gundam 00 next week. It is a TV time slot after all. Plus when the first season of Gundam 00 ended, Geass played the following week, so I dunno.

I would feel a little depressed that such a good show ended, but I got hellsing Ultimate and Gundam 00 season 2 to watch, so I think I can make it through lol.

Seriously though, am I the only one who got a little emotional at the end? I mean I have been following this for a good bit, kinda one of those "it's over, no more" kinda things.

I know exactly how you feel after following this for long and now its over, it does make you a bit sad but as i said earlier nothing lasts forever, now we need to find the next great anime show to argue about lol.

[GosoxJ]

Originally Posted by Xennon

Ah, so there WAS a method to their madness!

That rocked. Simple.

Yeah when I saw the bail of hay and C.C. was in it, I definitely thought Lelouch was driving the cart, especially with the paper crane. Happy ending. Although they never answered a couple questions(or I just didn't pick up on it). What happened to Toudou? Did he die? And what about Gino? although I could care less. How was Guilford still alive?

There are a couple more small bearable questions but I am VERY satisfied with the ending. I love endings where it shows what is happening a couple days/months later.

Also, about the R2 theory. It certainly makes perfect sense, but why R2? why not L2? how did they get the R? And more on that, what the hell is C.C.'s name?

Seriously though, am I the only one who got a little emotional at the end? I mean I have been following this for a good bit, kinda one of those "it's over, no more" kinda things.

It was a good ending, I'd been afraid for quite some time they were going to end it horribly but I was very pleased with the way the ended it.

Toudou was on that execution cart thing with Kallen so I'll presume if she's fine so is he. Gino, I don't see why he wouldn't still be alive. Guilford I don't know.

I really like time lapses in shows personally, and it's nice in endings too. It gives them a certain sense of completion/fulfillment.

I had forgotten about the whole name thing, kinda stupid that we never find out what it is.

Does anyone else thing Suzaku might have the Code as well? That's how he survived the explosion and when he kills Lelouche, Lelouche says "You will sacrifice all of your own happiness for the world... eternally..."

Anyone get the whole Jeremiah and Pink haired girl who's name I can't remember?

Yeah same here, I really liked this series and I hate to see it end. Personally I think it'd be nice to have like a movie taking place after the series that ties up loose things and such.

[Xennon]

Originally Posted by GosoxJ

It was a good ending, I'd been afraid for quite some time they were going to end it horribly but I was very pleased with the way the ended it.

Toudou was on that execution cart thing with Kallen so I'll presume if she's fine so is he. Gino, I don't see why he wouldn't still be alive. Guilford I don't know.

I really like time lapses in shows personally, and it's nice in endings too. It gives them a certain sense of completion/fulfillment.

I had forgotten about the whole name thing, kinda stupid that we never find out what it is.

Does anyone else thing Suzaku might have the Code as well? That's how he survived the explosion and when he kills Lelouche, Lelouche says "You will sacrifice all of your own happiness for the world... eternally..."

Anyone get the whole Jeremiah and Pink haired girl who's name I can't remember?

Yeah same here, I really liked this series and I hate to see it end. Personally I think it'd be nice to have like a movie taking place after the series that ties up loose things and such.

Ahh, see I didn't catch Toudou on the execution cart.

Suzaku, I don't think he had a code, I think it was just the live geass. Lancelot didn't blow up right away so he probably got out of it. Plus, how would he even have gotten a code?

I think Lelouch meant that he would now have to sacrifice himself as the savior of the world from now on. That he would have to keep Zero alive for all of eternity. That it doesn't matter who Zero is, just as long as Zero is there to protect and ensure justice for everyone, in short, Zero must serve as the symbol for justice, if that makes any sense.

What do you mean by the whole Anya and Jermiah thing? I think he realized that Marianne used her, and she didn't have memories, so he kinda pieced the two together. And there both "technically" fighting for no one.

Also, am i the only one who immediately thought of The Wizard of Oz when "zero" killed Lelouch? "The wicked which of the west is dead" and all the munchkins come running out on the streets singing and chanting?

[GosoxJ]

Originally Posted by Xennon

Ahh, see I didn't catch Toudou on the execution cart.

Suzaku, I don't think he had a code, I think it was just the live geass. Lancelot didn't blow up right away so he probably got out of it. Plus, how would he even have gotten a code?

I think Lelouch meant that he would now have to sacrifice himself as the savior of the world from now on. That he would have to keep Zero alive for all of eternity. That it doesn't matter who Zero is, just as long as Zero is there to protect and ensure justice for everyone, in short, Zero must serve as the symbol for justice, if that makes any sense.

What do you mean by the whole Anya and Jermiah thing? I think he realized that Marianne used her, and she didn't have memories, so he kinda pieced the two together. And there both "technically" fighting for no one.

Also, am i the only one who immediately thought of The Wizard of Oz when "zero" killed Lelouch? "The wicked which of the west is dead" and all the munchkins come running out on the streets singing and chanting?

Ok, all good points. There goes that theory.

That Makes Perfect Sense.

How does Jerimiah know Marianne has Geass and what it was? I doubt it was coincidence it's those 2 who are picking oranges at the end, but I see know way he could have figured out Marianne used her. He did pull out his Geass canceler but Marianne had already died thus liberating her of the effects of the Geass anyways. Which might be another point for Lelouche being alive since Nunally and Zero were shown as the leaders or what not we can somewhat assume Shnizel is still obedient, therefore meaning Lelouche is alive.

[prodigyxss19]

Overall I liked the ending and Orange-kun has continued to prove to everyone he is the most badass at anything he does, especially being an orange farmer. In case anyone is interested in my spoiler is a very detailed post I found from someone explaining the ending.

The Code is the power of immortality, which C.C. has. The 98th Emperor of Britannia, Charles, has the Code. He transferred the Code to Lelouch while strangling him in episode 21. Lelouch wanted this, and he deliberately told Suzaku to not interfere.

However, the Code does not activate unless receiver dies first. This is shown when the nun kills C.C. after transferring the Code to her. Charle’s Code activated when he shot himself. Here is one of the big misconceptions that most people have: The transfer of the Code does not involve death of the transferrer. The nun was crazy and killed herself after she transferred her code. VV was injured from the battle and died. So basically, after episode 21, Lelouch had Charle’s Code (inactivated) and C.C’s contracted Geass.

When Lelouch got stabbed by Zero/Suzaku at the end, his Code was activated. What supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched her, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code.

Unlike C.C., and Charles, who lost their Geasses because the people who contracted them died, Lelouch didn’t obtain C.C.’s Code and thus kept his Geass, while having the Code (which he obtained from Charles at the same time). Lelouch therefore has achieved CODE GEASS.

Basically, Lelouch is the person driving the cart in the last scene. He, who is now immortal, travels the brand new world he has created together with the also immortal C.C. C.C. talks to Lelouch in the end by saying: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch?"

Now comes the second big misconception. A lot of people say C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there. Also, the fact that the cart driver is masking his features completely supports this fact, considering the fact that Lelouch is now considered dead.

[Xennon]

Originally Posted by GosoxJ

Ok, all good points. There goes that theory.

That Makes Perfect Sense.

How does Jerimiah know Marianne has Geass and what it was? I doubt it was coincidence it's those 2 who are picking oranges at the end, but I see know way he could have figured out Marianne used her. He did pull out his Geass canceler but Marianne had already died thus liberating her of the effects of the Geass anyways. Which might be another point for Lelouche being alive since Nunally and Zero were shown as the leaders or what not we can somewhat assume Shnizel is still obedient, therefore meaning Lelouche is alive.

It is either one of two things. One: That jermiah probably jsut feels he has a connection with her since she has no memories and the two aren't really fighting for anyone, so they probably decide just to live peacefully together. Two: That Jermieh knew that Marianne used Anya(after all, he might have some knowledge of it since he was basically created by V.V. in the geass society) and wanted to protect her/live together.

Personally, I think it is the first one.

I just want to say again though, I really loved this ending. It was the perfect ending for this show. I must have watched it atleast 4 times by now.

[hanipman]

I'm not sure I understand the ending very well. Who knows that Lelouch meant good will to the world when Suzaku killed him? Was it only Karen, Nunally, C.C, and those that served Lelouch? or did the whole world understand Lelouch's sacrifice?

[Holychrono]

Originally Posted by prodigyxss19

Overall I liked the ending and Orange-kun has continued to prove to everyone he is the most badass at anything he does, especially being an orange farmer. In case anyone is interested in my spoiler is a very detailed post I found from someone explaining the ending.

The most badass scene in the show was pulled off by orange during his fight with anya. His big mecha got blown up, he used the small mecha to self destruct and destroy the top part of her mecha and stood on top with his sword in a victory pose.

[Xennon]

@ hanipman

use spoiler tags man, those are massive spoilers

[.spoiler.]text[./spoiler.] just remove the .

and

i assume it was only the original members of the black knights. They all gave a reaction of "NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO LELOUCH!!!!!!!!!" when he was about to be stabbed.

[Elminster]

Wow. Could anyone give me the name of the song that played at the end before the ending theme? Blah, now I don't have anything to look forward to on Sunday.

oh and to the people who said we never learned C.C.'s name. We did, it can't be expressed by any words, but it was revealed. I can't explain it any better than that, go back and watch the episode in season 1 where they are in the cave together.