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Old 05-13-2013, 05:57 AM   #1
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Hello all
i like japanese language i want learn it
but i dont know which book i must be studying ?
and what is good way to learning kanji?

and how many kanji i must learning?
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:37 PM   #2
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Hello, good to hear you're interested in the language.

Any book that goes through the official educational kanji list should be good for kanji study, but for the basics, grammar, vocab., conversation, etc., I can't make any recommendations.

Now re: kanji, the Japanese government mandates a list for native students at different years of school and so you can follow this list in order (I think it may even be on Wikipedia/Wiktionary). Of course this requires that you have corresponding speaking/comprehension ability in Japanese already. Based on that list you'll end up knowing a bit over 2,000 characters; add in some less common ones for names and specialist vocabulary and the like, and you may be looking at upwards of 3,000. That may sound daunting but if you follow the list one grade at a time, the over-all number won't matter.

In terms of actual study methods, if you decide on what you're going to learn over a certain period, break it up evenly, and practice writing them with reference to the correct stroke order, while reading the pronunciation to yourself and perhaps writing this as furigana as well, you should create a good association between character, meaning and word/reading. So give yourself say, twenty kanji a week (vary this depending on how much time you have and how confident you are), study them a bit over the week, then test yourself on the weekend. After a month (give-or-take as some sections are longer) you'll have one grade completely studied. At that stage it would be worth writing up a full test - this could just be a table where you've listed the kanji, pronunciation, translation, and blanked each column in different versions of the table so you can go through and fill it in.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:25 AM   #3
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start off learning 3 to 5 kanji every day. write them each about 8 times minimum.
then at the end of the week review your self on all the weeks kanji.
once you have done this for a while you can increase your daily kanji to a lot more such as 10 or 20 per day.

if you dont know any kanji at all then look up some begginer books online. you can read reviews and see which you are interested in. for example some books include english, some are fully japanese, some have explanations etc etc
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:59 AM   #4
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start off learning 3 to 5 kanji every day. write them each about 8 times minimum.
then at the end of the week review your self on all the weeks kanji.
once you have done this for a while you can increase your daily kanji to a lot more such as 10 or 20 per day.

if you dont know any kanji at all then look up some begginer books online. you can read reviews and see which you are interested in. for example some books include english, some are fully japanese, some have explanations etc etc
20 per day... I'm a quick learner but that sounds tough (in case u don't have a lot of sparetime)

Good advice though! I'm gonna go with that when I learn it ^_^
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:29 AM   #5
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I always see people refer to written Japanese as kanji, but people should know that there are two other syllabary. I made sure to use the word "syllabary". I don't know how many people know the word, but a syllabary is basically an alphabet. Syllabary are a set of symbols the represent syllables.

So there is hiragana and katakana. It is necessary to know these two read Japanese. I think if a person who doesn't know anything yet, wouldn't it be better to start off with this before kanji? They are a lot easier to learn. Each of have 48 characters each (compared to thousands). Each symbol basically has one pronunciation. For the most part they are easier to write than kanji.

I just think learning those two first would make it a lot easier than just diving right into kanji.
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I too am self-learning Japanese. The advice given above is good, and I especially would like to echo Garyuu's, as learning hiragana especially, but both hiragana and katakana are quicker and easier to learn than the kanji, and you can start reading with knowlege of these. (Some reading materials have hiragana text above the kanji characters as a "cheat/aid" in pronouncing the kanji, and this additional reading-aid subtext (known as furigana) is often present to help those who don't yet read kanji.) Warning not to get too dependent on it if you wish to truly learn Japanese and kanji.

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Furigana (振り仮名?) is a Japanese reading aid, consisting of smaller kana, or syllabic characters, printed next to a kanji (ideographic character) or other character to indicate its pronunciation. It is typically used to clarify rare, nonstandard or ambiguous readings, or in children's or learners' materials. It is most often written in hiragana, though katakana is used in certain special cases explained later in the article. In horizontal text, yokogaki, the furigana is placed above the line of text, while in vertical text, tategaki, it is placed to the right of the line of text, as illustrated below. It is one type of ruby text. Furigana is also known as yomigana (読み仮名?) or rubi (ルビ?) in Japanese.
漢 か

字 じ

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かん じ
漢 字

These examples spell the word kanji, which is made up of two kanji characters: 漢 (kan, written in hiragana as かん), and 字 (ji, written in hiragana as じ).
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #7
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Also learning かんじ here - so I know how hard it is! There's a website called wani-kani (without dash I think) - helps you memorize them thru games......Constant reminders too!

This also helps: each かんじ is an ideogram - they express an idea. Like so: じ, or hours = 時, if broken down, it becomes the characters for 'sun' (on the left), 'Earth' (upper right), and 'measure' (lower right) - in other words, time = measure of the sun over earth ! ^.^ Hope this helps!
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Also learning かんじ here - so I know how hard it is! There's a website called wani-kani (without dash I think) - helps you memorize them thru games......Constant reminders too!

This also helps: each かんじ is an ideogram - they express an idea. Like so: じ, or hours = 時, if broken down, it becomes the characters for 'sun' (on the left), 'Earth' (upper right), and 'measure' (lower right) - in other words, time = measure of the sun over earth ! ^.^ Hope this helps!
But some kanji, when broken down, make no logical sense at all. The person who runs Kanji Damage wrote a section about it when explaining Kanji facts (course language warning).

Still, the way you're breaking down the kanji by radicals into an ideogram and making a mnemonic out of it is the kind of method that a lot of learners use. YMMV though, it certainly doesn't work for everyone.
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Hello all
i like japanese language i want learn it
but i dont know which book i must be studying ?
and what is good way to learning kanji?

and how many kanji i must learning?
You shouldn't focus on kanji straight away. First of all, start off by learning Hiragana. It's used to write Japanese words which are not normally written with kanji, such as adverbs and some nouns and adjectives, or for words whose kanji are obscure or obselete. It has 48 characters and they aren't particularly difficult to master. For example, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (ひぐらしのなく). The red ones are Hiragana.

Once you've got that under control, you'll understand how difficult the written part of this language is (compared to this verbal is a breeze) and then you can move on with something else.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:16 AM   #10
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Default Re: how to learning kanji?

Well i mostly use kanji de manga(for fun, if i am really bored) and an android application called obenkyo, it's pretty good because it holds a big vocabulary, kanji/hiragana/katakana(organised by the JLPT), a grammar section, and a practice/test function where you need to practice the way they're written.
For the PC, i guess wanikani and anki(program) is okay as well.
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