Wow DarkMissingno... Just wow... Where to start...
"My opinion to your post: 100% nonsense + not worth reading
also no worth responding but i try it (with no effort of course)"
Thanks for the opinion. Great to know your opinion is that I shouldn't have one myself. It's funny really, because I think you're describing your own post. While AngryJellyfish is right that it all comes down to opinion, you seem to have missed that. To then show your lack of tolerance with poor grammar and to even defy your own belief that it's not worth responding to is really, really lame. Heck, it's stupid really. What's your point in doing such? If it's not worth your time to respond, through your own admission, why did you? Nice way to start on a message board by laying to yourself and everyone else. Heck, if you're going to one up me (which is obviously what you're trying to do), at the very least, you should care enough to try.
"if u want to criticize something u should have watched it first"
I actually agree with you there. That said, I wasn't criticizing Higurashi as a whole, but rather what I've seen. Might I add that I'm still watching the damn thing? Naturally, since I've seen 100% of what I've seen, that gives me every right to critique what I've seen. My opinion still stands that the start of the show is horribly presented, and does a great disservice to building the mystery you seem to hold so dearly. One doesn't need to have seen the whole thing to come to that conclusion.
" and not tell that u didn't see a reason why they do what they do before u have watched it all..."
Man that's hard to read. So you're saying I shouldn't comment on a show unless I've seen all of it, hence defeating the point of an anime discussion board? That I shouldn't say that the show hasn't done it's job of efectively conveying motivation, when it truly hasn't? Bull. Seeing as no one's seen all of at as Kai is still airing, even you should be shutting your trap. ^_^
Of course, motivations become clear later. I'm saying that since we don't know the characters in the beginning
at all, one has no idea where the homicidal tendencies come from, or if it's even within character. Hence the drama doesn't work. How am I supposed to react to Keiichi's paranoia when I have little clue who the heck he is, and that he isn't even consistent with it. One minute he's buddy-buddy, then he's not, then he is, then he's not, then he is, then he's not to the extreme. I get the mystery there is not knowing whether it founded or not, but the character isn't even acting in the limited sense that's already been established.
Surely one doesn't need to see an entirely show to start understanding the characters. Surely you don't believe that one shouldn't form an opinion of characters until after all facts are know. That's an outright retarded belief as it's completely impossible to do. The very nature of storytelling is to identify with the characters as you watch it. Hence you form opinions as you watch it, and they may change when it's done.
So your sentence is a straw man argument.
Besides, the post was meant to address points brought up in this discussion, not Higurashi as a whole. With the main point being that I've enjoyed Kai more as it was better told, didn't resort to cheap gimmicks and actually fixed season one's problems (namely being the lack of proper setup rendering the so-called "creepy bits" lame).
"its a mystery and detective genre and it makes 100% sense if u have watched it all and/or played the game"
You think? I would hope so, otherwise someone didn't write a very good story. Though your statement implies that you've done such. Seeing as the anime isn't finished, you've either read spoilers yourself to know this, or your grasp of Japanese exceeds your apparent limited grasp of English. Besides, as I've already pointed out, Kai is doing just that, and bringing some semblance of continuity to the randomness of the first show. Keiichi's paranoia is simply explained by Rika's monologue. Might I add that most fans of the game also felt the anime was lacking in presenting the story clearly. The makers even insisted Kai have a unique arc to explain the info Deen stupidly left out the first time around.
"also the answer arcs starts with ep 16 of the
First season"
Ummm.... Where did I say otherwise? I merely stated that Kai was made up of answer arcs, not that it was the only answer arcs. I'm fully aware of the first season. I know more about Higurashi than you give me credit for. Soooo, your point?
"and don't say the question arcs are not important..."
I can if I want, as it's an OPINION, and what I meant by it is that, even though I've only seen two question arcs and nine episodes of Kai, I still fully understand what's going on. Hence it's a valid conclusion. Kai (nay, the whole story) is setup in a way where prior knowledge isn't really needed to understand what's going on as the question arcs don't tell you that to begin with. It's all revealed in reverse. The overarcing story is contained in the the knowledge the answer arcs give. The question arcs merely show detail and facets of the characters. The question arcs
are important in understanding the show as a whole. I never said that they weren't.
My point is, given my experience, they actually aren't so important as to be needed to understand what's going on, as Kai fills in such things (like how it went before), and that the way that they're presented they just don't work without that knowledge unless all you care about is cheap horror (which describes most fans apparently). I meant no more, no less. Basically, the question arcs are just that, question inducing arcs with deception and misinformation. Kai has actually encouraged me to continue season one, something your post greatly discourages in me
Now, since I am a much more gracious person than your post allows me to be, let me conclude with an apology for my rough response. I merely responded to your rude post in kind, and treated your opinions as you did mine. My thanks to AngryJellyfish for understanding my meanings and for knowing what an opinion really is, and not being the apparent "fan so enraged that anyone would dare see their favorite show differently that they just had to register to give them a poorly thought out piece of their mind and show just how well they misinterpreted the post and forgot about what an opinion is."
Welcome to the Planet. Might I suggest a spell checker, and a chill pill? Firefox's isn't half bad, and I'd have no problem discussing this in a more civilized manner.
For added reading, might I suggest this thread:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=464553#464553
Note that the opinions addressed are reflective of the the preceding posts.
Mind if I try actually enjoying the show now, with your permission of course?