Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc) - Anime-Planet forum
Why register?

make an anime and manga list, and more! all free!

Theme

Go Back   Anime-Planet forum > Anime and Manga Discussion > General Manga Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-30-2009, 08:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
Overlord
 
sothis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Age: 32
Posts: 15,678
Default Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

Unlike the anime database, the manga database provides a number of challenges. Here at Anime-Planet we prefer quality and consistency over blindly doing what other sites choose to do (especially if the results are not consistent/quality), and manga makes things difficult.

Please note that there isn't a way to have a perfect solution - this is the solution we think works the best for most cases. If you have helpful, respectful or constructive feedback to give, please do so. Flames are not welcome.

First, a list of decided-upon policies (followed by a list of unresolved issues):

1. All volume counts will be listed in Japanese tankoubon format. This means that if the US release is different (for example, Parasyte), the volume count may appear to be incorrect.

2. All titles will be split up according to the Japanese release. For example, Rozen Maiden and its sequel were released as 2 titles in Japan, while only one series in the US. Thus, we will use the Japanese version and post 2 entries.

A prime example of this problem is the Rose Hip Zero/Magnum Rose Hip/Rose Hip Rose trilogy. Tokyopop (and TP in general tends to be strange in how they deal with manga, so likely their titles will very often be numbered differently than we post them) chose to release RHZ as 5 vols instead of 3 - the last 2 volumes (which technically take place AFTER RHZ's sequel, RHR) being Magnum. So I'll need to change the RHZ entry from 5 to 3, and add an entry for Magnum (annoying, as I already returned the vols to the library -_-)

This was a hard decision but since most people read the Japanese versions (or scanlations of them), we have to go with the majority. It's not possible to post several episode dropdowns for each version type, so yeah.

3. Chapters are only posted if there is a definitive source that lists the total number of chapters. This does NOT include extra chapters/specials/one shots included in the volume. This information is hard to find so generally we leave chapters off.

4. Chapters are only posted alongside scanlations if both the Japanese release is still ongoing, and the chapters are relatively close. For example, if a series has 22 volumes released but only 10 chapters are subbed, we will not list the 10 chapters. This is because the count is very highly off of the real chapter count (we'd add the real one if we can find it, but that's unlikely) and if the series suddenly is completed in volumes, we now are unable to mark it as completed (we'd either need a full chapter count at that point, or people would lose their data if they were marking chapters). Note that this is also an 'unresolved issue' below.

5. US volume 1 cover is always used if it exists. JP volume 1 cover if not. Same with main titles - US, then JP.

This might seem strange given we use the JP volume count, but we have our reasons for doing so. JP versions are listed as alt titles.

6. Compilation manga will be listed - at least for now - as only the compilation. Individual stories will not be posted as individual one shot entries (note: I know that I posted a few of these in the past that must be removed)

7. Start/end years are listed based on serialization. As this is very difficult information to acquire (especially end date), often we leave end date excluded.


As a note, we will likely make some changes to current entries as needed based on these policies, some of which were decided upon on the date of this post.


Unresolved issues:

1. Listing one shots that are part of a larger manga

2. How to handle titles that have subbed chapters way behind volumes, so people can still mark them

3. more TBD
__________________

Anime-Planet.com - anime | manga | reviews

Adding Anime - Synopsis Templates | Twitter | MySpace

[sixth sense voice] I SEE BRITISH PEOPLE - Control my signature or avatar!

Last edited by sothis; 07-19-2011 at 08:31 AM.
sothis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2009, 08:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
Cross-eyed Cyclops
 
Drahken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1985
Posts: 3,017
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

I think pilot one shots should definitely be listed. If they started as a 1 shot but then became chapter/volume 1 of the ongoing series then they should just be counted as ch/vol 1 of the series. If they're a true 1 shot though (ie a chapter 00), then they should be listed seperately.
__________________
*Warning: The above post may be highly opinionated, read it at your own risk.
Wham! Bam! It's the dino-jam!


Halloween Music
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Tag Definitions . | . Answers to Common Questions
Drahken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 12:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
Lan
Otaku
 
Lan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pacific State,
Posts: 1,269
Send a message via MSN to Lan Send a message via Skype™ to Lan
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drahken View Post
I think pilot one shots should definitely be listed. If they started as a 1 shot but then became chapter/volume 1 of the ongoing series then they should just be counted as ch/vol 1 of the series. If they're a true 1 shot though (ie a chapter 00), then they should be listed seperately.
I agree completely with Drahken on this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sothis View Post

Unresolved issues:

2. How to handle titles that have subbed chapters way behind volumes, so people can still mark them
I would like to say why not keep it consistent with the Anime. In that only adding an Anime/Mange only when is has been subbed. But what about if the beginning portion has already been subbed and suddenly the the fansubbers stop. Would you just halt updating the Manga even though several chapters have been released since its last subbing? I'm sure there has to be are a number a users who can and do read the original Japanese releases that would still like to keep up with it. Although they not be entirely vocal on the forums.

Another question.. is there an actually a large number of Manga that are partially subbed that could be added? or is it within a manageable size?




-- I hope I'm clear about what I'm saying... its kinda later here ... night
__________________


Those who say there's nothing like a nice cup of tea for calming the nerves never had *real* tea.
It's like a syringe of adrenaline straight to the heart!


Are you a TACO?

Lan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2009, 01:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
Overlord
 
sothis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington
Age: 32
Posts: 15,678
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

the problem is, there's no way of knowing what chapter the vast majority of japanese manga are at. if you have a fully definitive source that is very up to date and reliable, let me know.
__________________

Anime-Planet.com - anime | manga | reviews

Adding Anime - Synopsis Templates | Twitter | MySpace

[sixth sense voice] I SEE BRITISH PEOPLE - Control my signature or avatar!
sothis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2010, 04:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Experienced Anime Fan
 
sarwor248's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ohio
Age: 26
Posts: 565
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

Quick question: Are yaoi and adult titles ok? I noticed a few titles on the site show explicit sex, and there are some yaoi titles I could add if it's ok. I'll make sure to make it clear that the title shows explicit sex when I submit it.
__________________


Confessions of a Yaoi Fangirl
sarwor248 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2010, 03:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
Narumon Z
 
starsnmoonbeams's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 13
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

I, too, think that listing the one-shot and subsequent chapters/volumes would be a good thing to do. For example, I've been reading Oumagadoki Doubutsen which was originally a one-shot, but the mangaka has currently been persuaded to extend it into a series. As far as I know, there are 6+ chapters out in Japan.

Now, it could happen several different ways. You could, obviously, have separate listings for both the one-shot and series, and just make sure they've been distinguished in the database. Or maybe the one-shot could be listed as "chapter 0". Then again, the two could be listed under the same name, but have different bars for ratings, etc.


This may be a bad idea, but as far as chapters/volumes go (especially chapters) maybe you could try adding 10 extra from what you know are actually available? Especially with the super-popular stuff, you won't have to update it every week, but be able to wait two or three. Just make sure there's a notice saying that current numbers don't necessarily represent the actual amount of chapters, volumes, episodes, or what have you.
__________________

Anime-Planet.com - anime | manga | reviews
starsnmoonbeams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2011, 05:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
Narumon Z
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

Very nice post. Keep it up.
__________________
Generic Viagra, Silagra, Caverta
jonathan88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 08:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
Narumon Z
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
Default Re: Manga Database FAQ (how we choose main titles, vol count, etc)

I'll make sure to make it clear that the title shows explicit sex when I submit it.
wsxc0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0