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General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
Anime-Planet Community Anime Awards - 2008
****General Rules**** -- Voting will take place from now until April 21st, 2009; you can edit your vote at any time during that period. Votes are locked and counted on April 22nd. -- You must have watched a majority of any anime you vote for; this will be verified by awards staff as needed. -- Eligible anime are those that ended in 2008. Here's the master list (some anime that did not get subbed may be left out): -- Winning titles will be announced throughout the site and social networking portals (Facebook, Twitter, Myspace). V3 will include customized banners in the winning entries. There will also likely be a second set of "panel" awards, the details of which will be ironed out later. -- Although this is "official" in that sense, the primary goal is to provide a fun/interesting/amusing event for the A-P community to participate in. As such, please try to keep the drama to a minimum - have respect for the opinions of others, try not to fret too much if your favorite series doesn't do well, etc. -- Obvious spammers trying to rig the results will be ignored (no site profile/forum profile till the voting thread, no anime list, etc). For this reason, if you're relatively new to the forums and want to participate, please make sure you have a relatively complete profile on the site and have a signature linking your accounts in your forum profile. ****Categories**** Overall Series OVA Movie Plot Setting Character Development Animation Music OP Theme ED Theme Male Lead Female Lead Male Supporting Female Supporting Villain Full Cast Comedy Sci-fi Mecha Fantasy Action Drama Romance Mystery Horror Sports Slice-of-Life Ecchi -- Moives and OVAs are excluded from the Animation category due to vast budget differences. -- For the genre and lead/supporting character votes, we will supply a list of series/characters to be considered eligible for that vote. This is being done to prevent the endless bickering/questioning amongst users as to what qualifies as a <genre>/lead that would inevitably occur if it were left wide open. The lists are posted in their respective threads. -- These lists are based on both our own opinions and those of a number of users we consulted while making them. Of course, they will never be anything more than a line-of-best-fit sort of thing, and nigh-everyone is going to have some gripe or another. Please have some consideration for the difficulty in getting these together and the impossibility of pleasing everyone. -- That said, the leads list is still missing info for a couple series and has some other choices that were an educated guess at best. If anyone has any fixes to suggest, (namely for the less popular series) feel free to flood my pm inbox or comment here. ***Note that we want to restrict it to at most one lead of each gender wherever reasonably possible, so please don't send a list of every girl in a harem series -.-' ****Voting Procedure**** -- The voting will not be poll-based. Instead, each user can vote for up to three entries in a category, (five for Best Series Overall) in ranked order. Then points will be assigned based on the rank: 3 points for a first-ranked vote, 2 for a second and 1 for a third. Whatever has the most points at the end of the vote wins in that category. -- Please make sure your votes are in bold, preferably at the top of your post, and that any commentary or discussion you want to post afterwards avoids using bold text. This should hopefully make the counting easier. -- If you haven't seen more than one or two series in a category and therefore are unable to vote for three, you are still free to vote if you really want to. However, a vote for just one series will count as 1 point, and a vote for two series will count as 2 points for the first and 1 for the second. This is for a variety of reasons. First, if we don't do it that way then people would start strategically voting only for their favorite so as not to give other series a 2-1 point boost that might help them win over the favorite. Second, it can be argued that those who have only seen one or two series in a category aren't really as familiar with it as someone who's seen 4, 6, or 10 series in the group; so a token vote for their favorite 1 out of 1 one shouldn't impact the final result as much as someone picking the best 1 out of 6 or 10. In an ideal world people who aren't particularly familiar with a category would just abstain, but for those who really feel their fondness of the 1-2 anime they did see should still count for a little something, we're not going to ban them from voicing that. -- Ties will go the anime with the lower "watched" count in the anirec. *************************** Category-specific details will be posted in the appropriate threads. Surely most people are going to have an issue with something or other, but please bear in mind the enormity of the task. We did our best to make things as reasonable, fair and widely acceptable as we could, and even then those things sometimes conflict with one another. And if all goes well, this is something we'll hopefully be able to do on an annual basis, so precedence, repeatability and making things applicable for any given year were factors as well. We can try to respond to comments/questions/concerns as best we can, but do try to be understanding. But with any luck, in the end this will all go pretty smoothly and should prove to be an entertaining exercise for most people. So, happy voting ^_^
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04-07-2009, 05:32 PM
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Re: General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
I'd like to raise a problem:
I notice Mnemosyne no Musume-tachi has been left off a lot of lists. Presumably because it's an OVA and their budget give them an advantage. However, budget makes no difference whatsoever to best female/male leads, plot, or anything relating to any characteristic except for animation. So why can I not vote for Rin in the Best Female Lead category just because she's in a 6-episode show instead of 26 episodes? Why can I not vote for it in the Best OP/ED sections? Why can I not give it a best Character Development or even a genre vote if I wanted to? Hope this can be corrected, because Mnemosyne seriously deserves some votes.
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04-07-2009, 05:36 PM
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Re: General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
community, what do you think? should we include ova/movie stuff into the other categories too? please post as quickly as possible with your answer in case we need to change the lists.
cetonis will be posting shortly with the reasoning why we left them out.
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04-07-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
When it comes to characters I don't see the problem with adding from OVAs and Movies.
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04-07-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
I have no idea why you'd need to ask for lots of opinion on this. It's just common sense. Needless exclusion just skews the votes. If it's going to be fair, any exclusions should be for relevant reasons. You can't justify excluding Mnemosyne from Best Female Lead (or other such categories) because of its budget, since budget has no bearing on how well a character is written or how interesting she is.
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04-07-2009, 05:41 PM
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Re: General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
It's not only budget, there's also a huge time difference. Any given series has to have a plot, character development, etc. that's good for 5-10 hours, whereas some ovas/movies only need to do so for 25 minutes. It's not really something you can compare.
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04-07-2009, 05:45 PM
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Hmm, it's a difficult one really. On the one hand they do fit into the otehr categories and may well be better than some of the series in there, however it's difficult to judge a film and a series in the same way. Aside from budget differences, films and OVAs have a shorter amount of time to develop characters and stories. As such I have two seperate personal anime lists on my computer: one for series and one for films.
Depends on how many people desperately want films included in the categories. I'd be tempted to either leave them out of the animation category (since with the increased budget, it's almost unfair on the series) or maybe rename it as Best animation in a series or something. Basically I'm happy if they're left as is, or if films are included. Edit: Though I do agree that the character categories would probably benefit from having movies and ovas included.
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04-07-2009, 05:45 PM
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Okay, Mnemosyne has six hour-long shows. Whereas Vampire Knight/Spice and Wolf/Kurenai have 12 half-hour shows. If time is the issue, Mnemosyne can easily compete with the others.
Moreover, a plot does not necessarily need time to be fantastic. The quality of a show, be it a movie or series has no bearing on whether the story is good or not. I could easily say Tokyo Godfathers has a better plot than Kurozuka, or Seirei no Moribito is better plotted than Stranger-Mukou Hadan. Most importantly, this still doesn't justify all the other irrelevant exclusions like BEST FEMALE LEAD; and pretty much all the best music-related, genre-related, and character-related votes i.e. most of them. EDIT: To make my point, here is a dilemma. I desperately want to put Mnemosyne in my votes for best ED/OP. It literally has one of the most awesome ED/OPs ever, I rant about it in my review, I want it to win so bad. But because it's got fewer episodes (but not even necessarily being shorter in time spent on it), apparently it doesn't deserve a vote in that section. Like, what? EDIT 2: Holy shit, and you can't vote for Detroit Metal City in Best Comedy! Even though it's quintessential satirical comedy and probably one of the more popular ones of the entire year. @_@ EDIT 3: So, um, Mnemosyne no Musume-tachi is not even listed in the Best OVA section. Last time I checked, AP listed it as 2008 anime.
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04-07-2009, 05:57 PM
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Re: General Rules and Categories - Must Read!
With the Op/Ed thing, it's more or less an issue of avoiding gray areas; pick out one or two categories where they'll probably work okay and people will wonder about a third or a fourth. That sort of thing. If it comes down to it I'm not particularly opposed to making such exceptions, (or for that matter putting ovas and movies of X length or more in with the series) it's just that it's something to be wary of.
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